From: MATTHEW VAN WOLLEN <mvanwoll@physics.ubc.ca>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 18:41:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: O-net Digest V3 #166
Message-Id: <Pine.3.03.9411161835.A18368-9100000@physics.ubc.ca>
Hi!
I'm new to this rapidly-developing newsgroup (I like
rec.sport.orienteering), but with a background in long-distance mountain
running, you can bet I'm totally into it.
What I want to know, is do any of you know the name of someone near my
city (Vancouver, B.C.) who I could talk to about local orienteering
events? I would really appreciate it.
Thanks, Matt
From: blair@mullara.met.unimelb.EDU.AU (blair trewin)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 10:43:24 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Embarrassing slip-ups by the media....
Message-Id: <9411162343.AA18501@mullara.met.unimelb.EDU.AU.noname>
They say any publicity is good publicity, but after reading the end
of a piece in this week's Diamond Valley News (a suburban newspaper
in Melbourne) about Australian M16 champion David Colls, you do start
to wonder....
'David hopes to be selected in the Australian Jaywalk team that will
compete against international teams within the next couple of years'
David tells me that he did explain to the reporter that JWOC stood
for Junior World Orienteering Championships-it must have got lost
along the way, or perhaps the reporter saw our road-crossing
techniques at the Eltham street event last week....
At the risk of starting a thread that will go forever, can anyone
else come up with a similarly misinformed piece of reporting?
Blair Trewin
Bushflyers OC/Yarra Valley OC
Australia
From: Lawrence J Berman <ona@world.std.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 16:58:37 +0001 (EST)
Subject: spikes, et al
Message-Id: <Pine.3.89.9411161628.D6346-0100000@world.std.com>
I believe what the bulletin refers to as "dobb-spikes" are studded shoes.
Spikes screw into a sole plate and are completey exposed. Studs are like
studded snow tires; the spikes are buried in the rubber cleats, with
only the tip exposed. On a hard surface, the studs are pushed back into
the rubber, so you get grip from the rubber as well as the studs.
I interpret the bulletin to mean that both spikes and studs are out.
Larry
From: Brian May <bmay@Phys.Ocean.Dal.Ca>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 16:37:19 -0400
Subject: RE: spikes at WOC 95
Message-Id: <94Nov16.163721ast.35905@Phys.Ocean.Dal.Ca>
Stephen Kreger wrote:
> I understand that Dobb-spikes are are simply a flatter rounded version of
> the more typical o-spikes, somewhat like the spikes you'd find on track
> racing flats.
Not quite. The distinction between dobb-spikes (shoes) and traditional spike shoes has more to do with the shoes than the actual spikes.
Dobb spikes look very much like normal orienteering shoes, except that many of the rubber cleats (6-10 per shoe) have a small spike protruding from them. These spikes protrude about 2mm long, are 1mm in diameter, are embedded in the rubber of the shoe, and are located on both the fore and rear foot.
Traditional spike shoes have much longer spikes (typically 7-10 mm) which screw into a plate at the front of the shoe. Of course you can put any length spikes in the shoe that you want. The rear of the shoe looks like a normal orienteering shoe.
As for wearing down of spikes, using special carbide/tungsten spikes almost eliminates this problem. I assume this is the sort of spike used in dobb-spike shoes, as they don't seem to wear down appreciably.
Brian
From: kreger@optics.rochester.edu (Stephen Kreger)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 1994 13:03:39 -0500
Subject: RE: spikes at WOC 95
Message-Id: <9411161802.AA01708@moe.optics.rochester.edu>
>From: bbreton@lehman.com (Bernard Breton)
>Subject: Re: WOC 95 in Lippe/Germany, Bulletin 2
>Uhhhh, I have a question. Are spiked shoes allowed?
>
>No, really - What are dobb-spikes? Are rubber cleats ok?
>
>Bernard
Bernard,
I understand that Dobb-spikes are are simply a flatter rounded version of
the more typical o-spikes, somewhat like the spikes you'd find on track
racing flats.
This issue came up at WUOC in Switzerland (which has a similar if not
identical rule) in September. A teammate of mine (Fran Danaher) brought
only one pair of o-shoes with her to the cometition. They were spiked
shoes but the metal had been worn flat by years of running on those West
Point rocks. The evening before the short course the rules committee ruled
that the 'no spikes' rule meant no spikes, worn flat or not. We were
informed we could appeal the decision but that seemed pointless,
technically we were at fault, we simply should have been better prepard.
Fortunately a member of the Swiss team took the initiative to find a pair
in Fran's size that were not being used, mercifully saving us much frantic
scrambling (thanks!!). And yes, they did check at the start (you had to
walk on a metal plate without clicking).
In short, if you make the team don't bother bringing any shoes with any
metal on the bottom of the sole at all. Yes, rubber cleats are fine.
- stephen.
Stephen Kreger >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< >< kreger@moe.optics.rochester.edu
From: Phil DeLuca <DeLucaP@cls.elcsci.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 94 18:36:00 PST
Subject: Re: rec.?.orienteering
Message-Id: <2EC9AF36@smgate>
I prefer
rec.sport.orienteering
or
rec.orienteering
in that order.
Phil