From: kjetikj@ifi.uio.no (Kjetil Kjernsmo)
Date: 1 May 1996 22:41:22 +0200
Subject: Who wins Tiomila?
Message-Id: <4m8i9i$j00@eggther.ifi.uio.no>
This is the simple question.
Who wins Tiomila this weekend?
How about posting our guesses here?
Will it finally be a norwegian team?
I hear Nydalen is getting strong this year, but also Fredrikstad
and Halden will be fighting.
Good luck everybody!
Friendly Tiddely-pom,
Kjetil
--
Kjetil Kjernsmo
undergraduate astronomy-student University of Oslo, Norway
mail:kjetikj@ifi.uio.no WWW-homepage:http://www.fys.uio.no/~kjetikj/
HOMO LUDENS SUM; ERGO MOLES UNIVERSI CONSTANS EST
From: Dmjcarto@aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:28:38 -0400
Subject: Re: OCAD problem
Message-Id: <960501222837_526170805@emout13.mail.aol.com>
In a message dated 96-05-01 11:34:36 EDT, you write:
>Austin has enclosed a copy of the printed map. The greenish lake
>occurs where 50% (?) blue screen for a small lake is stacked on
>top of solid yellow and is overprinting rather than knocking out
>the yellow. And the vegetation fault is similar. A green screen
>has been stacked on top of a yellow screen but doesn't knock it
>out.
>Austin doesn't say but can one assume the OCAD5 generated proof
>was a 4-colour CMYK proof? And presumably the map was printed
>as a 5 colour job.
A couple of points - A specific color will only be "knocked out" in EPS
outputs if the -1 option is selected (for that color) . I was unclear if, in
the original message from Austin, he was aware of this or not. Printing a
proof directly from OCAD (and whatever printer driver, etc.) will not use
this function but the priority order of the colors will be in affect. This
has been explained very clearly by Hans (and others) in a number of places
(the manual, his newsletter, the net....) but I am still amazed at the number
of times someone still has problems.
>Does anyone have any comments? Is Austin's workaround correct
>and/or the best way of fixing this? Should someone have checked
>the films before running the job? Is it reasonable to have to do
>that after 'successful' proofing? etc etc
Suggestions - Don't have the final proof generated from OCAD, use the actual
negatives to produce the beast. Actually, a quick look at the negs should
have picked up that overlapping colors exsisted without even going as far as
doing a proof. ALWAYS have the draftsman check the negatives personally.
I've never had a major problem with this because for some reason I've always
used the 'cut & fill' and/or 'follow' options when dealing with differing
colors (for that matter I even do like colors of differing density in this
manner). I guess old pen & ink habits die hard.
My guess is that it will be the last time Austin has this problem; who's
next?
mark
From: "Mark Roberts" <mark@kiwiplan.co.nz>
Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 13:02:07 +1200
Subject: OCAD colour problem
Message-Id: <9605020103.AA16741@nethost.kiwiplan.co.nz>
Ned Paul quotes Austin Farr's letter regarding OCAD's conflicting
colour policies and asks for confirmation that it's all true.
Yes it is Ned. OCAD handles colours on the screen/draft printer
differently from on separations. I have not yet worked out why.
In order to guarantee that the two behave the same, you have to set
up the two separate colour schemes to agree. This can be achieved
by sprinkling -1s around the colour table as you describe. The
screen/draft printer colour scheme has implicit -1s, (presumably
because the Windows API will not conveniently allow two half tones to
be displayed overlapping; the last one displayed always dominates?)
The default colour table that you receive when you install OCAD does
not have these -1s so when you print your first OCAD map you discover
to your horror that it does not look like the draft one you carefully
checked.
THIS IS STUPID.
Hans unfortunately does not accept that this is a "bug" because it is
in fact a wrinkle in the way that it is configured and he seems not
to be prepared to correct the default configuration and thereby
protect us babes in the wood from stumbling into the backberry patch.
(I'm sure that some of my customers think that some of my decisions
about my software are equally inappropriate, so I will not criticise
Hans further.)
One of my very first OCAD maps is blessed with a number of areas of
"Rough Open Lake" and "Rough Open Difficult to run" and "Difficult to
run Lake". Fortunately very few orienteers spot these problems;
those who do are usually mappers and are very forgiving.
After that debacle I decided that it would be good professional
practice to always cut half tone areas at their edges and never
overlap them. One of my more picky mapping colleagues has noticed
that I missed out a few in a recent major mapping project which as a
result has a few "lily ponds". (Thank you Evan)
Remember that generations of cartographers to come will be using the
same map file and making the same mistakes. Protect them by creating
your map in as orthodox and pedantic a manner as you can. Never use
obscure side-effects, avoid fragile constructions. Just like writing
computer programs.
For example, if one symbol is being used for two completely different
purposes, perhaps you should always create a second copy of the
symbol for the second purpose. An example would be a text symbol
being used both in the legend and in the club logo. If you decide
to make the legend text a little bigger, you stuff up the logo
without realising it. (Yes that happened to me too.)
This and many other OCAD5 issues are well known among those who have
used it for some time. Many of those people are online here on
O-net. I was one of the early adopters of OCAD5 in New Zealand and
I have championed its adoption here and run several workshops. My
advice to my colleagues has been "Don't make these mistakes yourself,
I already did, ask me first." I have some words which might help
newcomers to OCAD entitled "What you need to know about OCAD." I
would be happy to email it to anyone who asks. One day when an OCAD
FAQ / FMM (Frequently Made Mistakes) webpage becomes available I will
tip everything into there.
The moral of the story is clear, (do as I say not as I do:) always
print separations and check them before committing to printruns. You
don't need to pay for imagesetting, you can do it on any laser
printer though 600dpi is better than 300dpi. It's the ultimate check
(short of supervising the printrun) and it costs very little.
Mark
Ned, you are welcome to put this into CompassSport in edited form if
you wish.
------------------------------------------------
Mark Roberts <mark@kiwiplan.co.nz> +64 9 5205993
------------------------------------------------
From: review@iol.ie (Noel Donagh)
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 19:00:32 GMT
Subject: IOC96 Start List (Irish Orienteering Championships)
Message-Id: <4m8d2s$s79@nuacht.iol.ie>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Irish O Champs (Individual Day 1) Di
30/4/1996 21:51
Start List
-------------------- OLEinzel V.8.1 ) Stephan Krdmer 1996
---------------------
Stno Name YB Club
Nat Start Time
M21E 12.200 km 10 m 3 C
100 Padraig Higgins 62 PxN C
0
101 Timmy Flavin 57 Kerry O M
12
102 Aonghus O'Cleirigh 60 CNOC L
24
103 Colm Rothery 60 Ajax L
36
104 Brendan Delaney 63 CNOC L
48
105 Marr O'Neill 73 SET L
60
106 Colm O Halloran Lee O M
72
107 Martin Flynn 67 Ajax L
84
108 Rory Morrish 68 Lee O M
96
109 Paul Pacque 54 Esk VO G Aus
108
110 Edward Niland 74 Ajax L
120
111 Andreas Maltig 69 UCDO L
132
112 Brian Corbett 62 Cork O M
144
113 John Casey 68 UCCO M
156
114 Brendan O'Brien 67 Ajax L
168
115 Gerry Brady 55 Cork O M
180
116 Eadaoin Morrish 68 Lee O M
192
117 John Feehan 72 BVOC M
204
497 Stephen Wilson LVO U
210
M21L 9.500 km 10 m 3 C
118 Andrew Pim 64 Wat O L
39
119 Leo Donovan 65 Ajax L
48
120 Seamus Fergus 71 Cork O M
57
121 Andrew O'Mullane 71 GEN L
66
122 Colin Burns 69 Ajax L
75
123 Cormac MacDonnachadha 71 Ajax L
84
124 Euggne O'Sullivan 64 SET L
93
125 Dave Weston 63 SET L
102
126 Gavan Doherty GEN L
111
127 John Muckian 62 Cork O M
120
128 Mark O'Neill 73 SET L
129
129 Justin Keatinge 69 Ajax L
138
130 Richard Kavanagh Cork O M
147
405 Pat O'Donovan 63 BVOC M
156
M21S 3.400 km 10 m 3 C
496 Padraic Ferguson PxN C
25
404 Cathal Cregg PxN C
33
403 Tom Conlon PxN C
43
402 John Darcy PxN C
52
401 Kieran O'Brien PxN C
60
132 Joseph Ryan 25Bn C
72
131 L. Lynch 5 Sig C
81
133 Nick Butterfield 63 GEN L
90
134 Aliatair Thin UCDO L
99
135 Brendan O'Connor 65 Ajax L
108
136 Tony Joyce 67 FUCCO M
117
137 Michael Jennings 75 CNOC L
126
138 Philip Brennan 64 SET L
135
139 Mike Sheehan 68 FUCCO M
144
140 Pat O'Connor 63 Wat O L
153
M35 9.500 km 10 m 3 C
141 Paul Dunne 57 PxN C
0
142 Chris McCann 60 LVO U
60
143 Eugene Sheridan 61 PxN C
69
144 Pat Farrelly 60 CNOC L
78
145 Paul Duignan 60 SO M
87
146 Tim Morrissey 57 Cork O M
96
147 Pat Donlon 58 3 ROC L
105
149 Barry Dalby 60 3 ROC L
123
150 Brian McBurney 61 LVO U
132
151 Tom Woggan 60 CNOC L
141
152 Pat Spillane 58 CNOC L
150
153 Liam O'Brien 54 Cork O M
159
406 John O'Donovan 60 BVOC M
168
M40 9.000 km 10 m 3 C
494 Peter Gargan 52 Ajax L
18
154 Kevin O'Dwyer 54 SO M
27
155 Kieran McDonald 55 Ajax L
36
156 Brian Bell 54 GEN L
45
157 Don Short 56 CNOC L
54
158 Joe Buckley 54 SO M
63
159 John McCullough 54 3 ROC L
72
160 Sean O'Boyle 56 CNOC L
81
161 Joe Lalor 53 GEN L
90
163 James Stapelton 56 Cork O M
108
164 Michael Heavney 49 SO M
117
165 Pat Healy CNOC L
126
167 David O'Donovan Cork O M
144
168 Ted Lucey 55 BOC M
153
169 Tom Condon CNOC L
162
170 Denis Reidy 51 Ajax L
171
171 Clem Stapelton 48 SO M
180
172 Rick Austin 55 Cork O M
189
495 Paddy Herbert 56 LVO U
198
M45 8.300 km 10 m 3 C
173 Jim Fallis 49 Ferm O U
72
174 Bob Pinker 47 Cork O M
78
175 John Fitzgibbon 51 Wat O L
84
176 Billy O'Neill 48 CNOC L
90
177 T McCormack GEN L
96
178 Wilbert Hollinger 48 LVO U
102
179 Philip Butler 48 3 ROC L
108
180 Maurice O'Hara 50 Ajax L
114
181 B. Parkinson 50 EPOL L
120
182 Sean Cotter 47 BOC M
126
183 Brendan McGrath 48 3 ROC L
132
184 Erik Kinsten Nittell O Nor
138
185 Bill Griffiths Misc .
144
186 Ken Griffin 49 Cork O M
150
187 Ian McNeill 50 3 ROC L
156
188 Sean McSweeney 50 SO M
162
M50 7.500 km 10 m 3 C
189 Donal Burke 45 Lee O M
93
190 Nigel C-Crawford 44 3 ROC L
102
191 John Petersen Nittell O Nor
111
192 Alan Gartside 43 LVO U
120
193 Brendan Doherty 45 GEN L
129
194 Ted McGrath 42 3 ROC L
138
195 Richard Flynn 44 SET L
147
196 Robert O'Connor 44 Cork O M
156
197 Ted Feehan 42 BVOC M
165
198 Harold White 43 3 ROC L
174
199 Bernard Creedon 46 Cork O M
183
M55 6.500 km 10 m 3 C
200 Alan Pim 39 Wat O L
81
201 David Brooks 41 3 ROC L
87
202 Michael Dooley 37 CNOC L
93
203 Brian Hollinshead 39 3 ROC L
99
204 Jerry Ryan 38 Cork O M
105
205 Michael Butler 41 3 ROC L
111
206 Freddie McCann 37 LVO U
117
207 Alan Shaw 41 Tho O M
123
208 Paget McCormack GEN L
129
209 Liam Convery 37 3 ROC L
135
210 Carl Graetzer 37 3 ROC L
141
M60 5.300 km 10 m 3 C
211 Martin Hollenstein 35 3 ROC L
90
212 Frank Cunnane 32 Cork O M
99
213 Con Carroll 32 3 ROC L
108
214 Peter Devlin 36 LVO U
117
215 Aage Oyvann Nittell O Nor
126
216 A. Bonar Law GEN L
135
M65 4.200 km 10 m 3 C
217 M.T.O hUiggin 31 Lee O M
66
219 Sean Rothery 28 3 ROC L
96
220 Fred Calnan 27 Cork O M
111
221 Norman Ervine 28 LVO U
126
218 Sven Kulldorff 26 SET L
141
M20 9.500 km 10 m 3 C
227 David O'Connor 76 Cork O M
90
232 Trevor Slattery 76 CNOC L
135
233 Connor Creedon 76 Cork O M
144
235 Patrick Feehan 76 BVOC M
162
237 Connor Barry 78 Cork O M
180
M18 8.300 km 10 m 3 C
239 Shane Lynch W Hosp L
15
241 David Jeffreys W Hosp L
39
243 David Masterson W Hosp L
63
246 Andrew Quinn 78 3 ROC L
99
247 Brendan Ryan 80 Cork O M
111
248 Wayne McDonald 78 Ajax L
123
249 Daire Shaw 78 Tho O M
135
250 Greg Smythe 79 NWOC M
147
251 Kevin Barry 80 Cork O M
159
252 Aonghus Fitzgibbon 78 Wat O L
171
253 John O'Callaghan 80 Cork O M
183
254 Tim Tottenhan 78 Ferm O U
195
255 John Gleeson 79 Cork O M
207
M16 3.400 km 10 m 3 C
257 Jason Masterson W Hosp L
42
259 Kieron Garland W Hosp L
54
261 Zlotan Foley-Fisher 81 PxN C
66
262 John Paul Fitzgerald 82 Cork O M
72
264 Darren Burke 81 Cork O M
84
265 David Carter 81 Cork O M
90
266 Damien Fitzgerald 80 Wat O L
96
267 James Hurley 81 Cork O M
102
268 Gerard Butler 80 3 ROC L
108
269 Kieran O'Callaghan 82 Cork O M
114
284 Conal Walsh 81 3 ROC L
120
271 Kevin Ryan 80 Cork O M
126
272 Declan Kelly 80 Wat O L
132
273 Alan Barry 81 Cork O M
138
274 Fiachra Fitzgibbon 80 Wat O L
144
275 John O'Callaghan 80 Cork O M
150
277 Brendan Griffin 82 Cork O M
162
278 Timothy Mackey 80 3 ROC L
168
279 James Hurley 81 Cork O M
174
281 John Gleeson 80 Cork O M
186
282 Luke C-Crawford 81 3 ROC L
192
283 Ronan Murphy 80 Cork O M
198
285 Alan Barry 81 Cork O M
210
287 Brendan Ryan 80 Cork O M
222
M14 3.400 km 10 m 3 C
410 M.O'Duffy 16 Bn C
6
407 P. Doorley 16 Bn C
9
439 M. Carne 16 Bn C
12
409 P.Tobin 16 Bn C
15
458 R. Brown 16 Bn C
18
288 Richard Powell W Hosp L
21
459 L. Bolger 16 Bn C
24
290 Trevor Cooke W Hosp L
33
292 Ian Kerr W Hosp L
45
408 P.O'Brien 16 Bn C
48
293 Rory Sheridan 83 PxN C
51
294 Darren Cox W Hosp L
57
295 Kieran O'Callaghan 82 Cork O M
63
296 Jonathan Lucey 82 BOC M
69
297 Kevin Holihan 83 Cork O M
75
298 Nathan Foley-Fisher 82 PxN C
81
299 Brendan Griffin 82 Cork O M
87
300 David Healy 83 GEN L
93
301 William Thompson 82 BOC M
99
302 John Paul Fitzgerald 82 Cork O M
105
303 Shane Burke 82 Cork O M
111
304 John McGrath 82 3 ROC L
117
305 Padraig Keogh 83 Cork O M
123
306 Paul McGahon 82 NWOC M
129
307 Paul Griffin 82 Cork O M
135
M12 2.800 km 5 m 3 C
309 David Murray 84 BOC M
60
310 Michael McVeigh 84 NWOC M
69
311 Luke McCormack GEN L
78
312 Alan Bell 84 GEN L
87
313 Matthew McCloskey 84 NWOC M
96
314 Maurice Feehan 84 BVOC M
105
315 Tiernan Burke 84 Cork O M
114
316 Niall Walsh 84 3 ROC L
123
317 Thomas Cotter 85 BOC M
132
M10 1.800 km 2 m 3 C
318 Thomas Barrett PxN C
90
319 T McCormack GEN L
105
320 Tiernan Fitzgibbon 86 Wat O L
120
W21E 9.500 km 10 m 3 C
321 Mirian Feehan 75 BVOC M
90
322 Marguerite O'Rourke 75 GEN L
105
323 Emma Glanville 73 3 ROC L
120
324 Eileen Loughman CNOC L
135
325 Nina Phillips 74 3 ROC L
150
326 Ailbe Creedon 75 Cork O M
165
W21L 6.500 km 10 m 3 C
327 Fiona O'Hanlon 70 Ajax L
114
328 Brid Higgins 74 Lee O M
120
329 Brenda O'Farrell 62 Kerry O M
126
330 Liisa Honkasaari 66 Wat O L
132
331 Shelia Muckian 61 Cork O M
138
332 Mary McGreedy 65 3 ROC L
144
333 Miriam Ni Choitir Cork O M
150
338 Heather Ervine 64 LVO U
156
W21S 4.200 km 10 m 3 C
334 Elizabeth Deane 62 Cork O M
69
335 Audrey Sheridan 63 GEN L
84
336 Margaret Creedon 48 Cork O M
99
337 Ruth Blair NWOC M
114
339 Beth McCluskey 71 3 ROC L
144
W35 6.500 km 10 m 3 C
340 Christine Brown 61 Esk VO G Aus
69
341 Mary Curran 58 Cork O M
75
W40 5.700 km 10 m 3 C
343 Mary Healy 54 GEN L
105
344 Ellen Feehan 53 BVOC M
117
345 Jane Watt 51 GEN L
129
346 Ann Savage 55 LVO U
141
347 Lindie Naughton 54 3 ROC L
153
342 Ruth Lynam 54 CNOC L
186
W45 5.300 km 10 m 3 C
348 Aine O'Suilleabhain 50 3 ROC L
60
349 Barbara Foley-Fisher 51 PxN C
69
350 W McCormack GEN L
78
351 Maria Pinker 50 Cork O M
87
352 Marie Walsh 47 3 ROC L
96
353 Alison Tottenham 51 Ferm O U
105
354 Judith Butler 49 3 ROC L
114
355 Claire McGrath 48 3 ROC L
123
356 Carmel Feehan 47 BVOC M
132
357 Josephine O'Keeffe 48 BVOC M
141
358 Monica Nowlan 47 3 ROC L
150
W50 4.200 km 10 m 3 C
359 Sue Pim 44 Wat O L
90
360 Trina Cleary 44 3 ROC L
105
361 Jean O'Neill 46 Fin O L
120
362 Andrea McCormack GEN L
135
W55 4.200 km 10 m 3 C
363 Rachael Wollett 40 PxN C
72
364 Vera Murtagh 39 3 ROC L
87
365 Hazel Convery 39 3 ROC L
102
366 Diana Large 37 GEN L
117
367 Maura Higgins 41 SET L
132
368 Claire Nuttall 41 Lee O M
147
W60 3.300 km 10 m 3 C
369 Anne Casburn 35 PxN C
0
370 Jean Mullen 33 3 ROC L
132
371 Faith White 34 SET L
144
W65 3.300 km 10 m 3 C
393 Marie O'Sullivan Lee O M
108
W20 5.700 km 10 m 3 C
383 Mary O'Connor 77 Cork O M
183
396 Maureen Dooley 77 CNOC L
207
W18 3.400 km 10 m 3 C
387 Anne Feehan 79 BVOC M
63
388 Claire O'Connor 79 Cork O M
75
390 Nora Feehan 78 BVOC M
99
392 Deirdre Creedon 78 Cork O M
123
W16 3.400 km 10 m 3 C
397 Emma Jane Carr W Hosp L
0
476 Louise Austin W Hosp L
54
394 Aoife O'Dwyer 80 Cork O M
60
372 Deridre Murphy 81 Cork O M
72
374 Susan Healy 80 GEN L
84
376 Aisling O'Donovan 80 Cork O M
96
378 Maebh Austin 80 Cork O M
108
380 Eleanor O'Neill 81 3 ROC L
120
381 Beth Smythe 81 NWOC M
126
382 Maria Feehan 81 BVOC M
132
395 Fionne Austin 80 Cork O M
138
384 Sheila Feehan 80 BVOC M
144
385 Kate McCormack GEN L
150
W14 2.800 km 5 m 3 C
411 Aislinn Austin 82 Cork O M
66
412 Sheila Nowlan 83 3 ROC L
75
413 Laura Cotter 82 BOC M
84
414 Denise Healy 82 CNOC L
93
415 Niamh O'Keeffe 82 BVOC M
102
389 Y.Smith 9FAR C
108
416 Eileen Feehan 83 BVOC M
111
391 I.Abbot 9FAR C
117
W12 2.500 km 5 m 3 C
417 Kiara Barrett PxN C
60
418 Rebecca Lee 84 NWOC M
72
419 Niamh O'Boyle 84 CNOC L
84
420 Edel Donlon 84 3 ROC L
96
421 Jennifer Allen 84 NWOC M
108
422 Niamh Lalor 84 GEN L
120
423 Amy Holihan 85 Cork O M
132
424 Angie Browne 84 NWOC M
144
425 Niamh Morrissey 84 Cork O M
156
W10 1.800 km 2 m 3 C
426 Erinna Jane Foley-Fisher 88 PxN C
93
427 Rosin Sheridan 85 PxN C
108
428 Jennifer Barrett PxN C
123
M35S
429 John Muldowney 57 PxN C
96
M40S 5.700 km 10 m 3 C
430 John Geary 55 BVOC M
126
431 George Taylor 53 PxN C
138
432 Paul Holihan 54 Cork O M
150
162 Anthony McGonigle NWOC M
162
166 Robert Walker NWOC M
180
M45S
433 Eddie Niland 47 Ajax L
153
434 Graham Porter 50 GEN L
159
M50S
435 Eoghan O'Suilleabhain 3 ROC L
84
M55S
436 David Hogg 38 NWOC M
63
M65S
438 Billy O'Neill SET L
111
M18B
440 Stephen Niland 79 Ajax L
96
441 Patrick Meade 78 BOC M
102
442 Kevin Butler 79 Wat O L
108
M16B
443 James O'Brien W Hosp L
156
444 Padraig Finnegan 81 BOC M
162
445 John Scott W Hosp L
168
446 Trevor Johnston 81 NWOC M
174
447 Mark Finlay W Hosp L
180
448 Adam Scott 80 3 ROC L
186
449 Michael Piggot 81 BOC M
192
M14B
450 Richard Brown W Hosp L
141
451 Timothy Feehan 83 BVOC M
147
452 David Hanna 82 NWOC M
153
453 Robert Wheeldon 83 NWOC M
159
454 Shane Mannix 83 BOC M
165
455 Andrew Kincaid 83 NWOC M
171
456 Connor O'Flynn 82 BOC M
177
457 Ben Pearse-Smith 83 NWOC M
183
M12B
460 Mark O'Donovan 85 Cork O M
114
461 Paul Geary 85 BVOC M
129
462 Diarmuid Finnegan 84 BOC M
132
M10B
463 Paget McCormack GEN L
99
W40S
465 Ros Holihan 56 Cork O M
93
466 Mary Austin 53 Cork O M
105
467 Nora Lalor 53 GEN L
117
W45S
468 Frances O'Neill 48 SET L
114
469 G. McGowan 48 SET L
150
W21N
475 Annamarie Lucey 55 BOC M
63
W14B
476 Sharon Lucey 83 BOC M
63
477 Judith Stevenson 83 NWOC M
75
478 Collette Geary 82 BVOC M
87
479 Margaret Finnigan 82 BOC M
99
480 Nichola McCleery 83 NWOC M
111
481 Caroline Dennehy 82 BOC M
123
482 Elaine Harbinson 83 NWOC M
135
W12B
483 Nichola Smyth 84 NWOC M
66
484 Rhona McGrath 84 3 ROC L
78
485 Jana Madden 84 NWOC M
90
W10B
486 Yvonne Bell 89 GEN L
102
487 Yvonne Murray 85 BOC M
117
AAA 5.200 km 10 m 3 C
223 R. Brown 9FAR C
0
286 J. Foyle 25Bn C
6
400 D.Clarke 16 Bn C
12
228 J. McCourt 9FAR C
18
280 Shane Foran 25Bn C
24
399 D.McConn 16 Bn C
27
244 P. Kiernan 9FAR C
33
276 C. Conelley 25Bn C
39
398 B. Brill 16 Bn C
45
225 N. Kelly 9FAR C
51
263 Daire Osborne 25Bn C
57
260 M. Finan 16 Bn C
63
270 Oisin Osborne 25Bn C
69
230 J. Brennan 9FAR C
72
258 J.Cunnane 16 Bn C
78
492 J. Harrington 5 Sig C
81
491 C. McGuinn 5 Sig C
105
488 T. Prunty 5 Sig C
117
493 P. Burke 5 Sig C
120
489 O. Lynch 5 Sig C
129
224 A.Flynn 19Bn C
135
490 M. Deavin 5 Sig C
141
222 O.Kelly 19Bn C
147
226 M.Regan 19Bn C
153
229 D.Duffy 19Bn C
159
236 B.McGuran 19Bn C
165
231 T.Gray 19Bn C
171
238 A.Greer 19Bn C
177
234 O.Nevin 19Bn C
183
W-AAA 5.200 km 10 m 3 C
289 L. Leogue 9FAR C
84
240 S. Flannery 5 Sig C
87
379 A.Savage 9FAR C
90
373 A. Darcy 9FAR C
96
377 O.Manning 9FAR C
102
375 N.Poynton 9FAR C
111
291 A. Elliott 5 Sig C
114
148 G. Meehan 5 Sig C
123
308 A. Scanlon 5 Sig C
126
242 C. Maxwell 5 Sig C
132
256 S. McManus 16 Bn C
144
245 M. Lennon 16 Bn C
156
From: Lars-Erik Osterud <leo@merkur.sds.no>
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 21:07:27 +0200
Subject: Tyrving Orientering
Message-Id: <3187B66F.51D9@merkur.sds.no>
The web-pages for IL Tyrving Orientering in Norway is now updated.
Links to results, invitations, WC96-pages and other norwegian pages.
The URL is: http://www.sn.no/~larserik/Tyrving/
--
Lars-Erik 0sterud Work +4722886938 Mob/page 94441729 leo@merkur.sds.no
Atari Developer Home +4767131571 Data/fax 67132659 larserik@sn.no
SysOp ABK-BBS Info & picture at http://www.sn.no/~larserik/
From: halter@eskimo.com (Howard Halter)
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:34:27 GMT
Subject: PNW Orienteering Info Web Site
Message-Id: <DqqoxF.Et2@eskimo.com>
There is another new web site in existence! The Pacific
Northwest Orienteering Information web site is intended
to provide information concerning orienteering in US
Pacific Northwest (Washington State, Northern Idaho, and
Northern Oregon) and Southern British Columbia. The URL
is:
http://www.eskimo.com/~halter/orienteering/pnw.html
Information includes the Puget Sound O schedule through
the end of the year, info on clubs in the area, driving
instructions to event locations, and other neat stuff.
Check it out.
hh/
----
Howard Halter
halter@eskimo.com
--
Howard Halter
halter@eskimo.com
From: teach3@ebcjhs.ednet.ns.ca (GREG NIX)
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 19:39:34 GMT
Subject: Re: What makes a successful club?
Message-Id: <4m80lm$17vq@Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA>
bq292@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Ron Heroux) wrote:
>> topic 'What makes a successful club' was discussed. The basic measure
>> of success used by both clubs who spoke was membership level and
>> retention, and many areas were discussed. Now I would like to hear the
>> international opinion.
>>
>> What is your measure of a successful Orienteering club, and how does
>> your club achieve it, or why is your club not achieving it? Any
>> opinions would be gratefully received, collated and possibly published
>> (anonymously if requested).
>>
>If a club grows large enough to have new chapters form in outlying areas, that
>is measurable evidence of growth.
>>If a community views the sport as an alternative form of recreational activity and
>>is well informed about events and Club activities.
>--
> o ///
> /) ///
> /(.... \XX/ Ron Heroux, Vermont
From: teach3@ebcjhs.ednet.ns.ca (GREG NIX)
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 19:32:46 GMT
Subject: AMHERST FINDERS ORIENTEERING CLUB
Message-Id: <4m808t$17vq@Trademart-1.EDnet.NS.CA>
THE AMHERST FINDERS ORIENTEERING CLUB WAS FORMED IN 1993. IT HAS A
FULL EXECUTIVE COMPLEMENT PLUS A JUNIOR EXECUTIVE AND ADULT DIRECTORS.
WE PRESENTLY FOCUS ON EDUCATING THE SCHOOLS AND COMMUNITY ABOUT THE
SPORT.
CURRENT LOCAL MAPS ARE LOCATED AT THE AMHERST POINT BIRD SANCTUARY AND
BEHIND THE OXFORD HIGH SCHOOL. WE TRAVEL BY BUS TO MOST ORIENTEERING
MEETS AROUND THE PROVINCE AND TO FUNDY NATIONAL PARK IN NEW BRUNSWICK.
From: Jan Kocbach <s111@brems.ii.uib.no>
Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 16:37:39 +0200
Subject: Updated o-page: World of O
Message-Id: <31877733.59D@brems.ii.uib.no>
Hi.
The last few days I have been updating my orienteering pages a lot.
People
can now easily add their results, invitations, orienteering-pages and
email-addresses to the pages using forms. The submitted information is
sorted in various ways, and is also searchable. Please submit your
orienteering pages, results, invitations, etc. to the page. Everything
isn't thorougly tested yet, but I think most of it should work by now.
The page can still be accessed by the old URL
http://www.fi.uib.no~jankoc/orientering/orientering.html,
But the real location of it is:
Fancy version: http://www.fi.uib.no/~jankoc/worldo/worldo.html
"Plain" version: http://www.fi.uib.no/~jankoc/worldo/worldoo.html
Jan.
--
**********************************************************************
Jan Kocbach * Student at Physics dep., Univ. Bg.
Svartediksvei 12a * Tlf. +47 55315313
5009 Bergen * Email: jankoc@kvark.fi.uib.no
Norway * WWW: http://www.fi.uib.no/~jankoc/
**********************************************************************
From: Joe Scarborough <joedscar@crl.com>
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 12:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: F50 and M60 to Brown?
Message-Id: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960501115521.11284A-100000@crl8.crl.com>
O-Netters-
The editorial in the current ONA is right on the nose in opposing the proposed
relegation of F50 and M60 from Green to the Brown course. Apparently,
the USOF BOD will be considering the proposal this weekend.
I would like to add to what the editorial has to say and urge further
discussion on the subject. I may have gone overboard on the verbiage, but if
I have included any weak arguments, there should still be plenty
of good ones against the proposal.
I cannot speak for the F50's but as an M60 in 1997 I have a particular
interest in the subject. I assume many of these points could be
applied to the women's situation as well.
* If orienteering is to be considered a sport for all ages in the U.S., we
must provide the older as well as the younger the highest standard of
technical and physical challenge.
* U.S. Green is already substandard for M60. I know the terrain is not
always comparable but at British national events, for example, 5.5-6k is the
norm for M60's. The proposed Brown is 3.5-5k while the Green would be 4-5.5k.
* What makes it even worse for us is that Green (and all other advanced
courses) are routinely set below even U.S. standards. At how many A meets has
a 100 point Green runner required 50 minutes to get around? On top of that,
an alarming number of courses are shorter than advertised.
* Everyone, even Americans, must compete at international standards at
international events. At the 1991 O-Ringen, for example, H60-A ran an average
of 5.15k for five straight days. The top 90 averaged under and hour/day.
* The common sense question to ask when setting U.S. and Canadian standards
is, "What do the international standards call for?" Isn't there and
obligation on the part of our governing body to adhere to the international
standard? Aren't we in a real sport with international rules and standards
and aspirations of becoming Olympic?
* If we are not a second class O nation, our courses should be at the same
level as the Europeans'. Our winning M-60 should have the same 60 minute run
here as he would at good events in Europe.
* Knocking down the M60's seems particularly unjustified in view of their
record. A look at the rankings over the past few years shows guys like
Berman, Smith, Gookin, Stensby and now Persson right up there with the top
M55's and even 50's. And they represent a relatively large proportion of
their class and some are over 65. It seems the performance does not
necessarily correlate with the age.
* Traveling across the country for an O meet is expensive but those of us
that love the sport do it regularly. Reducing the courses would especially
shortchange the traveler. That would discourage the traveling that is
important to the sport a big county with low participation. Short courses
mean less orienteering for everyone.
* Would it really help balance out the course load. The number of M60's at a
typical "A" meet is not that large in the overall picture. Anyway, simply
relegating a class to where there is more room is backward thinking.
* Are there M60's who prefer shorter courses? I know there are, just as for
all courses. Under the current system they have the B category on Brown. The
proposed set-up apparently anticipates putting M60-A's with them in the
interest of economy. Or are the B runners expected to run in Orange open?
* This scheme would put in "the rocking chair" some of the people who have
given the most to the sport. Not much thanks, I would say.
* With the low rate of participation in the U.S. competition in the older age
groups is very lean. The current system has the advantage of allowing M50's
and up to compete on the same course. A look at the standings over the last
few years will show the top M60's to perform right up there with the 50's and
55's. Age does not seem to be the primary factor.
* The top M60's such as Larry often run Red to get in a full distance run.
Some slower M60's do this as well. "A" events are supposed to be where the
best meet to compete. The change would further fragment the class. If I have
travelled across the country for the opportunity to compete against my rivals,
I can be quite disappointed. Which class should I enter if M60 is on Brown
but the top runners are on Green or Red?
* Forcing the change on the older orienteers would foster disrespect for
the system. What meaning would the ranking or championship system have as the
competition is split between two or three courses over the year. I'm not sure
where my loyalty would lie faced with such an unreasonable choice.
* Is there data that says the Green is too long for the M-60s? Compare their
actual times at "A" meets with their par times that Bill Cusworth supplies
with the rankings and, my guess is, you will find that the actual times tend
to be faster (and that is still only according to USOF, not IOF standards.) A
full length Green is not too physical for 60+ men who are in reasonable
condition. Some M65's seem to do just fine on Red.
* Are the long courses just for the jocks? I think the shorter the course,
the more the runner is favored over the navigator. Shorter legs. Less
opportunity for error. If I were pushing for the course that best suited me I
would support the change. I can keep up a fair pace over a shorter distance
but tend to make sizable errors. My strategy to optimize my ranking chances
would be to emphasize speed, enough to hit enough good ones for ranking. But
I get more satisfaction from success in navigation. In orienteering
"...navigation skill is decisive," at least that is what the rules say.
The editorial is correct in showing appreciation for the efforts of Bill and
Ross. Their proposal reflects a lot of work and a lot of thought and I agree
with much of it. They did not have an easy task.
I agree that Canada and the U.S. should move toward a similar system.
However, that can best be done by each progressing toward the international
standard at a pace most consistent with its own needs. The proposal would be
a step backwards for U.S. and Canadian M60s.
Joe Scarborough,
Technical Director, BAOC
From: Eric Smith <ensmith@msc.cornell.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 13:27:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Start list for Hammond Hill A-Meet
Message-Id: <199605011727.RAA19768@haggis.msc.cornell.edu>
We anticipate having the start list for the May 4-5 Hammond Hill
A-Meet (and NY State Champs) available on our Web site sometime late
Thursday.
http://pasta.graphics.cornell.edu/mkc/orienteering/cnyo/
Because of extensive rain in the past two weeks, the main parking
field for the event has become unusable, so the walk to the
registration area may vary from 400-800+ meters depending on your time
of arrival. There will be an additional walk of approximately 800
meters to the start on day 1 and approximately 500 meters to the start
on day 2. Please plan your arrival at the event site accordingly!
Eric Smith
From: cllu@enea.se (Claes Lundin)
Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 19:15:33 +0200 (MET DST)
Subject: TSOK/FIF Results
Message-Id: <199605011715.TAA10239@gordon.enea.se>
Results from Tyresoe SOK / Fredrikshovs IF events (27/4 and 28/4)
at URL.
http://www.swesport.se/orientering/resultat/27april.htm
http://www.swesport.se/orientering/resultat/28april.htm
Claes
From: Ned Paul <at44@dial.pipex.com>
Date: Wed, 01 May 96 12:50:21 GMT
Subject: Re: OCAD problem
Message-Id: <MAPI.Id.0016.00743434202020203442333230303030@MAPI.to.RFC822>
Here is part of a snail mail letter sent in for publication by
CompassSport reader Austin Farr of Potteries Orienteering Club,
Stoke-on-Trent, UK.
Austin Farr writes:
....OCAD can have unexpected effects in the hands of an
inexperienced user.
In its handling of colours, particularly half-tone areas, OCAD
breaks the principle of WYSIWYG (what you see is what you get).
I have received back (from an experienced O-mapping/printing
company) 3,000 copies of a map in which several areas of green
and blue half tones (representing slow and walk woodland, and a
small lake) are marred by an unwanted yellow component. I had
paid for a proof copy to avoid just such errors - but the yellow
peril did not show in the (OCAD5-generated) proof copy.
To avoid others falling into this trap, I recommend that
mapping/printing companies do NOT use the OCAD5 facility to
provide a colour proof: it is not a reliable representation of
the map printed by offset litho from colour separations.
The [unwanted yellow] effect can occur where smaller areas of
half-tone green or blue are used within a general area of
yellow, e.g. to depict small areas of thicker wood or small
lakes within a large open area. When printed by offset litho,
the yellow shows through between the dots of the green or blue
screens - producing yellowish-green woods and green lakes. When
OCAD5 prints to the computer=92s printer (as a proof copy) it uses
a different set of rules: it suppresses the colours defined
lower down its color table - and there is no unwanted yellow
cast. (Why does it not behave consistently?)
I believe that the yellow peril type of fault can be avoided in
OCAD5 as follows. Define each half-tone colour (for runnability
screens, lake infills, etc) to suppress any separation colour
which is printed earlier - e.g. green half-tone to suppress
yellow in the colour separation; blue half-tone to suppress
green and yellow. (A colour is supressed by a -1 entry in
OCAD5=92s color separation table.)
Austin Farr
End of quotes
Austin has enclosed a copy of the printed map. The greenish lake
occurs where 50% (?) blue screen for a small lake is stacked on
top of solid yellow and is overprinting rather than knocking out
the yellow. And the vegetation fault is similar. A green screen
has been stacked on top of a yellow screen but doesn't knock it
out.
Austin doesn't say but can one assume the OCAD5 generated proof
was a 4-colour CMYK proof? And presumably the map was printed
as a 5 colour job.
Does anyone have any comments? Is Austin's workaround correct
and/or the best way of fixing this? Should someone have checked
the films before running the job? Is it reasonable to have to do
that after 'successful' proofing? etc etc
Thanks
Ned Paul
<compass.sport@dial.pipex.com>
(aka <at44@dial.pipex.com>)
From: lmishkin@acs.bu.edu
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 05:01:57 +0100
Subject: orienteering in Maine
Message-Id: <199604280401.FAA15819@csdinfo.liv.ac.uk>
Please can someone reply to this:
Lisa Mishkin writes:
I have friend who is interested in finding out about
orienteering. He lives in Maine. How would he go about getting
information about orienteering events for beginners? Thank you
so
much for your time.
End quotes
Lisa: I have forwarded this message to the 'O-Net' and hopefully
someone in Maine will see it and respond.
Lisa Mishkin
Ned Paul
<compass.sport@dial.pipex.com>
(aka <at44@dial.pipex.com>)
From: Bob_Putnam.WESTINGHOUSE-PGBU@notes.compuserve.com
Date: 01 May 96 10:50:52 EDT
Subject: Joke from the Blue
Message-Id: <960501145052_702420.204300_BHD48-42@CompuServe.COM>
This came to my desk this morning and is interesting only in the sense
that Orienteering is still considered by the world to be an "oddball
favorite", but I thought all you MIT alums out there would get a kick out
of it too.
Authenticity of the following is unknown --
Subject: MIT Admissions
MIT certainly has a reputation to be proud of, but if this exchange is true, its
admissions
department went a little overboard. Apparently, a student received
this letter and then sent the response that follows.
- - - - - - - - - -
April 18, 1994
Mr. John T. Mongan
123 Main Street
Smalltown, California 94123-4567
Dear John:
You've got the grades. You've certainly got the PSAT scores. And
now you've got a letter from MIT. Maybe you're surprised. Most
students would be.
But you're not most students. And that's exactly why I urge you to
consider carefully one of the most selective universities in America.
The level of potential reflected in your performance is a powerful
indicator that you might well be an excellent candidate for MIT. It
certainly got my attention!
Engineering's not for you? No problem. It may surprise you to
learn we offer more than 40 major fields of study, from architecture
to brain and cognitive sciences, from economics (perhaps the best
program in the country) to writing.
What? Of course, you don't want to be bored. Who does? Life
here *is* tough *and* demanding, but it's also *fun*. MIT students
are imaginative and creative - inside and outside the classroom.
You're interested in athletics? Great! MIT has more varsity
teams - 39 than almost any other university, and a tremendous
intramural program so everybody can participate.
You think we're too expensive? Don't be too sure. We've got
surprises for you there, too.
Why not send the enclosed Information Request to find out more
about this unique institution? Why not do it right now?
Sincerely,
Michael C. Benhke
Director of Admissions
P.S. If you'd like a copy of a fun-filled, fact-filled brochure,
"Insight," just check the appropriate box on the form.
******************************************************************************
May 5, 1994
Michael C. Behnke
MIT Director of Admissions
Office of Admissions, Room 3-108
Cambridge MA 02139-4307
Dear Michael:
You've got the reputation. You've certainly got the pomposity.
And now you've got a letter from John Mongan. Maybe you're surprised.
Most universities would be.
But you're not most universities. And that's exactly why I urge
you to carefully consider one of the most selective students in
America, so selective that he will choose only *one* of the thousands
of accredited universities in the country.
The level of pomposity and lack of tact reflected in your letter
is a powerful indicator that your august institution might well be a
possibility for John Mongan's future education. It certainly got my
attention!
Don't want Bio-Chem students? No problem. It may surprise you to
learn that my interests cover over 400 fields of study, from semantics
to limnology, from object-oriented programming (perhaps one of the
youngest professionals in the country) to classical piano.
What? Of course you don't want egotistical jerks. Who does? I
*am* self indulgent *and* over confident, but I'm also amusing. John
Mongan is funny and amusing - whether you're laughing with him or at
him.
You're interested in athletes? Great! John Mongan has played
more sports - 47 - than almost any other student, including oddball
favorites such as Orienteering.
You think I can pay for your school? Don't be too sure. I've got
surprises for you there, too.
Why not send a guaranteed admission and full scholarship to
increase your chance of being selected by John Mongan? Why not do it
right now?
Sincerely,
John Mongan
P.S. If you'd like a copy of a fun-filled, fact-filled brochure, "John
Mongan:
What a Guy!" just ask.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: finna@netcom.com (Finn Arildsen)
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 20:17:25 -0700
Subject: New CONDES software for course planning
Message-Id: <9605010318.AA08959@merckx.graphics.cornell.edu>
The venerable CONDES program for DOS has finally got a successor...
CONDES for Windows is a program for the course setter. The Windows version
builds on the DOS version which has been used world-wide over 10 years; and
adds
several new features to take full advantage of Windows. It helps you draw IOF
pictorial control descriptions; administer control sites, courses and classes;
draw course layouts; exchange information with an event administration program
etc. A feature that really distinguishes CONDES from other similar programs is
the extensive support for relays.
For a limited time, the program can be tried out for free - later, it will be
for sale at a reasonable price.
Please try out the program and help me make it even better - I would really
appreciate comments and suggestions.
regards,
Finn Arildsen
finna@netcom.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can download WCONDES via ftp (courtesy of Rick Slater) from
site: toby.princeton.edu
directory: /pub/rdslater/orienteering/programs
file: CONDES.EXE
CONDES.EXE is a self-extractable archive. After running CONDES.EXE, run the
extracted SETUP.EXE to install.
CONDES for Windows is a native Windows 95/Windows NT program. It runs fine
on Windows 3.1/Windows for Workgroups when you first install Win32s (a
Microsoft add-on to Windows). Win32s comes in 2 self-extractable files.
Extract both into a directory and run setup.exe to install Win32s.
Win32s is available in the same directory as above.
files: 32sdisk1.exe and 32sdisk2.exe
----------------------------------------------------------------------------