From: William Luitje <luitje@acm.org>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:47:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Requesting Tips/Suggestions for My First Rogaine
Message-Id: <358DC5BA.703FCD3A@acm.org>
lisa godsey & gale teschendorf wrote:
> (Vaseline between toes beforehand, no blisters!)
Some people I've talked to think that vaseline works well at preventing
blisters but I chose a different tactic.
I tend to suffer from "wrinkled feet". This benign sounding but painful
condition happens when your feet get wet from sweat or crossing a
stream. Then your skin gets soft, becomes wrinkled and blisters easily
form where the wrinkles rub against each other. So I take some pains to
try to keep my feet dry and or let them dry out if they do become wet. A
dry spare pair of socks is a must but I also take along a pair of Teva
type sandals to wear when when there is not much need to protect my feet
from sticks, twigs and thorns. Besides letting your feet dry out,
sandals also let your toes spread out and in general stress your feet in
different places than your regular shoes. Result: far fewer blisters for
me. They don't weigh very much either.
Hey, it works for me! If you suffer from the heartbreak of wrinkled feet
think about giving it a try.
From: baoc <baoc@baoc.org>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:33:28 -0700
Subject: Request: USOF Entry Form in PDF format?
Message-Id: <358D7C27.9002AF9C@baoc.org>
Does anyone out there have the USOF standard entry form in Adobe PDF
format? It would be nice if WWW A-meet event information could have a
link to this form, so that entrants could easily download and print out
a nice looking entry form. If there isn't a copy available, does
someone who has the USOF standard entry form in another format have the
ability to write it out as Adobe PDF?
Please reply to me at baoc@baoc.org, as I don't regularly read this
newsgroup.
Thanks.
Wyatt Riley
BAOC webmaster
From: baoc <baoc@baoc.org>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 14:32:17 -0700
Subject: Request: USOF Entry Form in PDF format?
Message-Id: <358D7BE0.E100C97@baoc.org>
Does anyone out there have the USOF standard entry form in Adobe PDF
format? It would be nice if WWW A-meet event information could have a
link to this form, so that entrants could easily download and print out
a nice looking entry form. If there isn't a copy available, does
someone who has the USOF standard entry form in another format have the
ability to write it out as Adobe PDF?
Please reply to me at baoc@baoc.org, as I don't regularly read this
newsgroup.
Thanks.
Wyatt Riley
BAOC webmaster
From: "Eric Morris"<eric.morris@abs.gov.au>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 11:15:13 +1000
Subject: Bias in Ranking System
Message-Id: <CA25662B.00067034.00@ABSInternet02.abs.gov.au>
I agree with the comments by Yvette and Scott about a Scandinavian bias in
the World ranking system. This bias results from the fact that Orienteers
are better in their home terrain, and while Australians, New Zealanders,
Brits, US etc will get most of their ranking points racing in Northern
Europe, the Scandinavians will get their points racing in home terrain.
This is simply a function of more ranking races and more ranked orienteers
in Scandinavia.
Suppose you take a typical Swedish ranking event. Myself and one other
Australian turn up. We compete against most of Swedens top 100. I have a
good solid race and finish 50th. This would get me a reasonable amount of
ranking points (say 800 or so). My mate has just got off the plane the day
before and is carrying an injury. He is quite a good orienteer in
Australia but runs woefully finishing 30 minutes behind.
Then look at the reverse. The field in this same Swedish race all decide
to come out to Australia for one of our rare ranking races (in some nice
steep Granite terrain - bet 90% of the Swedes haven't seen anything like
this). I run to a similar standard (i.e have a good solid race). This
time I come 9th (beaten by 6 Swedes from their national squad and 2 other
Aussies). I pick up an excellent 1200 ranking points by beating all these
highly ranked Swedes.
Unfortunately the reverse never happens as I can't see the top 100 Swedes
making it to our Australian ranking event. Instead I come 3rd, beaten by 2
other Aussies, one of who is my mate who totally blew it in his race in
Sweden, and the other is a good runner who hasn't competed outside
Australia in the last 18 months. The ranking system sees that 2 of the
first 3 placegetters scored bugger all points in their previous ranking
event and concludes that the field was unusually weak and thus I pick up a
pathetic 900 points.
Perhaps this example is a little simplistic, but it should serve to
illustrate my point. Once the ranking system settles down, the 100th best
orienteer in Sweden who may beat me on average by 1 minute in Sweden but
who I would beat by 5 minutes in Australia could end up being ranked higher
than me. Is this right?
One other simpler reason why Europeans can do better in the rankings is the
increased chance to drop poor events if you run more ranking races. In
Australia this year we had 3 ranking races in total, all 3 of which were
held on consecutive days. What happens if you are injured or unfit or
don't perform for this one event?
From: Ned Paul <compass.sport@dial.pipex.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 98 00:19:37 GMT
Subject: A Statement from CompassSport
Message-Id: <MAPI.Id.0016.00743434202020203943343630303039@MAPI.to.RFC822>
Publication of the next CompassSport is behind schedule. The simple
truth is that for the last six weeks I have had extreme difficulty
working normally on the magazine and consequently have overrun
several self-imposed deadlines. I am sorry for this, especially to
contributors who for the most part met the original deadlines. The
problem, after twenty years editing orienteering magazines, seems
pyschological rather than physical; I can otherwise operate normally
including talking orienteering, attending and contributing to
orienteering meetings, even going orienteering and the rest of my
life seems OK but the editorial well has just for the present run
dry. I am sending this as much to confront my demons as let readers
know what is happening.
Hopefully I'll get over this as I have survived past mini-crises
before. The situation with the mag is that parts of it are at the
printers and the rest will, God willing, go there this week. Because
of the delay several extra pages have been added so as well as the
latest edition, in both senses of the word, it will be the largest.
The plan is to produce a correspondingly smaller and quicker edition
next month.
Those people in orienteering I have discussed this situation with
have up to now been very supportive and I am grateful for this and
for the huge amount of goodwill the magazine seems to have. In the
medium term I may seek a way of retiring from CompassSport but this
is not a short term solution as CompassSport is an operation run on
private commercial lines and is outside any national orienteering
structure. However it is also in reality uneconomic (and therefore
unattractive to outside parties) as it bears no staff costs and I
draw only a small income from it which I supplement with occasional
non-orienteering work. The bottom line continues to be as it has
since the start of the publication the supportive attitude of my
partner Hazelle Jackson.
I hope everyone will bear with me a few more days and hopefully
things will right themselves before too long.
Ned Paul
CompassSport
From: lisa godsey & gale teschendorf <gdt@megsinet.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:37:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Requesting Tips/Suggestions for My First Rogaine
Message-Id: <358D44CC.BA612C27@megsinet.net>
I knew I forgot something.
? Shoes: Tiger Touch (grass sports) with sewn in reinforcement on the instep
(Vaseline between toes beforehand, no blisters!)
Socks: Orienteering socks (long, thin, nylon), taped above calves with
electricians tape
Gaiters: O-type, tie into shoe laces, tie above calves
Pack: Macpac Ultra Marathon (hybrid large bum bag-with shoulder straps) with
2 additional Ultimate Direction small bags (for food) attached to the front of
the waist belt
Compass: Silva type 2 (luminous) (x2) with 1:50,000 sliding scale. Spare
compass in case of breakage.
Lights: Petzl Zoom (x2), halogen globes (x4), Duracel 4.5v battery (x2). If
you're going to take spare battery, then take the whole lot.
Water: Ultimate Direction Sport Tank water feeder (2 litre). How do you fill
these things up in a 3inch deep puddle?
Pants: O-pants, heavy duty material
Top: Aussie Disposals (army style) long-sleeve shirt (with lots of pockets
for rubbish,
sunglasses, etc)
Thermals: Helle Hansen long sleeve thermal (polypropylene) (x2), Gloves
(polypropylene),
Beany (acrylic)
Raincoat: cheap Japara
Head: Legionaires hat (face, neck protection), cheap Polariod sunglasses
Ankles: McDavid Light ankle brace with outer metal strengtheners removed
(x2). Ankle brace laces need to be double looped at the ankle to prevent
over-tightening of the foot.
Punch card: European style O-punch card holder, secured with masking tape,
string to wrist
Other: Large safety pin (needed because o-pants waist was too loose, but
also in case of strap
breakage), Roll of ankle tape (in case shoes fall apart!, for ankles if needed,
other repairs), Very small pair of scissors
Map: Contact (heavy duty clear sticky plastic)
Food: Goulbourn Valley plastic fruit packs (140g) (x6), with masking tape
reinforcement.
Muesli bars (3 fruits) (x4)
Power Bars (x2)
Cherry Ripe chocky bar - mini size (x4)
Snickers chocky bar - mini size (x2)
Leppin Squeezy (x10)
Gookin-aid powder in 500ml narrow neck container (to supply water feeder)
Gale Teschendorf wrote:
> K.T. wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'm preparing for my first rogaine...the Alaska Range Rogaine. Since I've
> > never participated in one before, I really don't know what to expect. I've
> > been orienteering for one season now.
>
> I know I am missing stuff, maybe someone else can add to the list.
>
> Gale
> Gale's O - An Internationnal Orienteering Supplier
> http://www.megsinet.com/gdt/
From: lisa godsey & gale teschendorf <gdt@megsinet.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 12:46:06 -0500
Subject: Re: United States Orienteering Convention
Message-Id: <358D46DE.540D619B@megsinet.net>
I find it strange that the USOF would schedule their convention so close to the
World Masters. I guess I will not see many fellow Americans in the the Czech
Republic. I
would have loved to do both but I can not juggle me schedule that much.
Gale - Gale's O an O' outfitter - http://www.megsinet.com/gdt
>
From: "Mark Roberts" <nmr@iprolink.co.nz>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:35:38 +0000
Subject: 1:10,000 etc etc etc
Message-Id: <199806211232.AAA108228@iprolink.co.nz>
Alan Philip asks:
> My question is: when these maps are sent to an offset printer how
> do I ensure that the symbols are at the correct size? Are area
> symbols likely to behave differently than line or point symbols?
...in the context of printing a 1:15,000 map at 1:10,000.
Oooohhh - this is a can of worms.
Supposing that you are talking about OCAD, and supposing that your
symbol set as drawn at 1:15,000 is at the "normal" sizes etc etc, you
have to ask yourself WHY the map is to be printed at 1:10,000, and
from that you will know what size to print everything. You decide
what you mean by "normal."
Option One
According to IOF specs and commonly quoted dogma, the purpose of
printing at 1:10,000 is to make everything easier to read for those
of impaired eyesight. The specs imply that (and the common inference
taken is that) you want the symbols to appear larger, in proportion to
the increased size of the printed map. So for instance, point
symbols usually printed sized .8mm will appear 1.2mm in size.
To achieve this, simply choose a scale of 1:10,000 when printing.
Rest assured that all symbols, including area, point and line
symbols, will appear correspondingly larger, everything will be just
fine, and as you observe, the print run will use a lot more paper,
and the map will flap aroud in the breeze and carry away young
orienteers in a high wind -without actually adding any information to
the map.
BTW - It is generally agreed among mappers of my acquaintance that
when you use OCAD the quality of platemaking is so much greater than
the old "pen & ink & multiple photographic processes" scenario that
you should consider using the finer and demonstrably better 150lpi
instead of 100lpi for the dot screens (eg walk green, lake blue or
rough open yellow.
Unless I'm mistaken, and I could well be, (someone please correct
me) printing a 1:15,000 map at 1:10,000 will reduce your 100lpi
screens to a rather coarse 67lpi, which is the last thing you want.
So you will probably need to compensate. (I'm really not sure about
this.)
Option Two
If the map is being printed at 1:10,000 in order to Fit More Stuff In
(viz my email of yesterday) then you certainly don't want the symbols
to get bigger when you print bigger. You want them to stay the same
size. It is far better to start by setting your map scale to
1:10,000, and everything will be fine.
Supposing that you have drawn your map at 1:15,000 but you wish to
print at 1:10,000 without the symbols getting bigger. (Not
recommended - the displacement / exaggeration compromises made during
fieldworking and cartography will be rendered invalid, and your map
will end up looking sparse and spindly. But at least it' better
than going the other way.)
You need to stretch your map to 150% and reassign the scale to
1:10,000. Then print at 1:10,000.
I'm sure that other ocadders will want to comment. I would earnestly
entreat them not to use the phrase "symbols at 1:15,000 sizes" cos I
don't know what they mean. *Please* use the terms "bigger" /
"smaller" or "point symbols at .8mm / 1.2mm"
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From: "D Barry" <imra@iol.ie>
Date: 20 Jun 1998 23:57:01 GMT
Subject: Mountain Races in Ireland
Message-Id: <01bd9ca7$0b5f2c20$b8137dc2@default>
Updated list on our website. Address below
--
Douglas
Douglas Barry
Chairman
Irish Mountain Running Association
http://www.iol.ie/~imra