From: "Damir Marekovif" <damir.marekovic@zg.tel.hr> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:18:29 +0200 Subject: CROATIA Message-Id: <7slrkc$i9q$1@as102.tel.hr>
In Croatia we coated map with thin plastic (0.02mm)... -- damir.marekovic@zg.tel.hr http://members.xoom.com/sljeme
From: Bryan Teahan <BTEAHAN@Terralink.co.nz> Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:39:38 +1200 Subject: WINCACS and Event Organiser 2.0 Message-ID: <040096F52125D211B0D40000F808325741E3C9@mailhost.terralink.co.nz>
I'm currently evaluating control description programs. WinCacs has a nice feature where you can create Ocad 5 files but compared to the other competitors is a bit expensive. Does anyone know of software which can create an Ocad file from a control description program? I read an article about Event Organiser which said version 2.0 would have this nice feature in 97! but I have not been able to track down the software creators or a web page where I can get a demo. Can anyone point me to where I can get this software and/or get in touch with the creators? Bryan Teahan Technical Director, WMOC 2000.
From: "Chris Burden" <Chris.Burden@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:17:42 +0100 Subject: Peter Palmer Junior Relays. Message-Id: <7slddn$ete$1@plutonium.btinternet.com>
This years event was very enjoable with some good and appropriately challenging courses, and a very good social atmosphere, which is as important as the orienteering. However the yellow course(s) planning raised questions (once again) regarding why planners won't ahvere to the Technical difficulty guidelines, and hence who is the Peter Palmer really aimed at. This years event created a second yellow course at the expense of dropping one light green course. The reason for this change was never made explicit, but I took it to mean that the event was attempting to encourage the participation of more M/W12s who run TD2(yellow) at Badge events. The yellow courses turned out to be long - 2.5k, and only 200m shorter than the orange. Indeed the combined distance of a normal Peter Palmer Light Green and Yellow leg would scarcely be any longer, than today's 2 yellows put together. It quickly became apparent that some of the times on the yellow course were very long, compared with the times the competitor normally took. For instance the W14 winner of the Northern Championships at the recent Harrop Tarn event took almost as long on this yellow course as they did on their longer badge course on a far more technical area. Two of us non-competitors decided to take a look at what was going on. The area is a very open gently contoured grassy commonland with a few small wooded areas. There are numerous paths, all grassy, and fairly indistinct with indistinct junctions, and often no junction at all. Not easy to plan a yellow course on. The first site we saw was a small clutch of children wandering fairly aimlessly around a hillside and occasionally rushing to one of the numerous control sites scattered around which they spotted. Eventually one of them hit on the control they were looking for. It was sited at the floor of deep depression approximately 20 metres from the nearest path, albeit that it could be seen from that path. Worse, when we got to look at the map the control was placed as already demonstrated, not on a line feature, not at a decision point, but off a line feature 4 decision points beyond the previous control. And so it went on. Numerous controls were on no discernible line feature either on the map or on the ground. The courses could not be tackled without efficient navigation on a compass bearing skills. It was at the best a challenging orange course. A lok at the orange courses made it hard to discern what had been the differnece in planning criteria. Off course there were many older juniors who run these courses without great difficulty. If the courses had been properly planned they would still have been faster, but the margin between them and the M/W12s would have been signicantly less. As an average M/W12 I would have been very discouraged having to tackle these courses, and would feel less disposed to tackle the Peter Palmer's again. It is really disappointing that one of the UKs premier junior events has failed to adhere to the guidelines for technical difficulty. Is there an explanation that I am missing? Chris Burden
From: simonbeck6219@my-deja.com Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:20:19 GMT Subject: Re: Levies (was RE: Caddihoe - photocopied maps) Message-Id: <7skogf$arn$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <37EBEADD.20D6D4BE@keighley.u-net.com>, dick@keighley.u-net.com wrote: > > Day 1, being a National event, > This has an effect on land access charges. Some of the Bovington area is > Forestry > Commission land, not Army. The agreement that the FC has with BOF provides for > much higher land access charges for National and Championship events. Day 1 > therefore cost us much more than Day 2 in access charges, Given the amount of work people at BOF have put into negotiating with the FC, we'll just have to put up with these annoying access charges. One question: is the FC access charge a flat rate per national event or is it per competitor? Presumably if it's the latter, someone somewhere had to work out which courses actually entered the FC land. One wonders whether to degrade events to badge events simply to avoid higher access charges! Alternatively plan the caddihoe so day 2 avoids the FC land but day 1 makes more use of it. Probably not worth in the the case of Bovington, it would stunt the courses too much also force the organisers into having to cope with map exchanges, some events / areas it's worth looking at. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
From: simonbeck6219@my-deja.com Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:59:52 GMT Subject: Re: Chasing Sprint 2000 - don't be a fool Message-Id: <7skna5$a3r$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <007801bf0763$8f654a40$d24001a3@bc1>, "Piers Newbery" <Saturday 1st> April in Bishops Wood (part of the Graythwaite Estate near Lake Windermere). OOH AAH TELL ME MORE! IS IT PART OF THE BOC99 AREA????? VOLUNTEER ME TO COLLECT IN COME CONTROLS AFTERWARDS! > It is envisaged that the event will feature quality maps WILL THE DARK GREEN AREAS BE MAPPED? WILL THERE BE SECRET PATHS WAITING FOR ME TO FIND THEM? Make it a date now, DEFINITELY!! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.