From: Sidney A Sachs <sidneysachs@juno.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 22:03:35 -0400
Subject: RE: Map Copyright Question
Message-ID: <19991029.220336.-167341.1.sidneysachs@juno.com>
I was wondering if any club gave copies of their copyright maps to the
Library of Congress? If so, how did you do it?
Sidney
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From: "Mark Roberts" <nmr@iprolink.co.nz>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 11:05:22 +1300
Subject: Copyright
Message-Id: <199910292159.KAA175810@iprolink.co.nz>
Rick Hood asked:
> has any club actually given over the copyright to a map,
> save where the land owner/manager has paid ALL the cost?
Jim Huggins confessed:
> We have never considered "copyrights" to the maps. Guess we should!
I always put a Copyright statement on the maps I draw. When I draw a
school I always put it in the form:
"Copyright 1999 Auckland Orienteering Club and Whatever School"
Whether the Copyright statement has any legal status doesn't really bother
me; it is just a way to remind people what is happening and who owns the
map and who is entitled to copy it.
At a recent seminar for schoolteachers I talked about copyright of our
maps. I explained that they were not entitled to photocopy our park or
forest maps, that we invested an enormous amount of money and effort into
making them, and that we would happily licence the map for a modest fee
or sell them a couple of hundred for not very much money.
They looked quite surprised that we were concerned about copyright.
Thereby confirming that it was something I should talk about!
FWIW I don't really mind schools not paying a fee - the money isn't the
issue - it's the principle, and because I would much rather they used an up-
to-date map under our control instead of a blurry copy of something years
old.
Once while orienteering in a local park I came across another orienteer
taking part in a completely different event! She was holding a dreadful copy
of a crappy map that must have been 15 or 20 years old. Some local
community group pirating our map - argh.
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Mark Roberts Box 99612 Newmarket Auckland New Zealand
nmr@iprolink.co.nz markr@pictdata.co.nz
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From: "Julie Calder" <jcalder@mail.fairfax.com.au>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:11:33 +1000
Subject: Fw: Mountain Bike O - interested ?
Message-ID: <19991028231323.4191.qmail@fairfax.com.au>
Sorry if this is a repeat or if i sent you a blank one before - i'm
experiencing a few technical difficulties!
Cheers
-----Original Message-----
From: Julie Calder <jcalder@mail.fairfax.com.au>
Date: Wednesday, 27 October 1999 18:44
Subject: Mountain Bike O - interested ?
>Dear all
>
>Traditional O season over, summer series not quite here, wondering what to
>do? How about attending the NSW Mountain Biking Championships (which also
>happens to be the first NSW Mountain Bike race for the year I think, so no
>previous experience is necessary). No pre entry required and a bargain $8
>to participate.
>
>It's on Saturday week - 6 November at Penrose and if you're really keen
the
>ACT Mountain Bike Champs is on the next day.
>
>See full details below:
>
>
>6 November 1999 (Sat) Penrose
>
>NSW MTBO Championships
>
>Venue Turn E off the Hume Highway at the Penrose Forest rest area 2km past
>the Exeter Service Centre (McDonalds) and follow Osigns to assembly. This
>turnoff is 9km past Paddys River if coming from Canberra.
>
>Time Starts from 12-00noon to 2-00pm
>
>Courses course 1 about 24km M19-34
>
>course 2 about 18km M35-49, M-18, W19-34
>
>course 3 about 12km M50+, W35-49, W-18
>
>course 4 about 8km W50+
>
>Non Championship competitors and groups may enter any course except course
1
>
>Map "Penrose State Forest", 1:25000, 1997
>
>Facilities toilets, water
>
>Entry Fees $8 (all courses are enter on day)
>
>Special Rules 1 Helmets are compulsory
>
>2 All controls will be on tracks and bikes may not be taken off tracks
>
>Organiser Neil Prosser 9736 9760w 9436 2075h nprosser@ppk.com.au next week
>or this week contact Julie on 9282 1650w 94362075h
>
>
>
>
>
>
From: Jim Huggins <jimh@softdisk.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 06:11:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Map Copyright Question
Message-ID: <381980FF.EB573EC1@softdisk.com>
Rick,
We have maps everywhere and are in the process of doing another big one
for our local Boy Scout Council. We have never considered "copyrights" to the
maps. Guess we should! Any information, and or discussion would be helpful.
Thanks!
Rick Hood wrote:
> An interesting situation came up when we approach a local county park to map
> the park for O -- all seemed favorable, save they initially they wanted to
> own the copyright to the map. After explaining our rational, they seemed to
> better appreciate our situation. Question: has any club actually given over
> the copyright to a map, save where the land owner/manager has paid ALL the
> cost
> associated with the map?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick Hood, COC
> Edmonds, Washington State, USA
--
Take care, and remember:
"You can never tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks."
Jim Huggins, Prez
Ark-La-Tex Orienteering Society (ALTOS)
318-949-3601, Fax 318-390-6450
http://www.softdisk.com/customer/jimh/